Sarcoidosis Answers for Physicians, Nurses and Patients

Here at SarcInfo, between 2002 and 2004, we identified the cause of Sarcoidosis, and successfully trialled a curative antimicrobial therapy. During 2005 and 2006 the US FDA designated the antibiotics Clindamycin and Minocycline as Orphan Products in the treatment of Sarcoidosis, and studies are ongoing elsewhere.

For information about this breakthrough, please post your questions at the current study-sites of the Autoimmunity Research Foundation.
 
This archive of the historic study is maintained by volunteers from the Foundation. The material here provides useful background, but most of this site is now out-of-date.

 

** Patient Tutorials **

 Click here to read "WHY DID I GET SARCOIDOSIS? WHY ME? 

  Click here to read "REMISSION IN SARCOIDOSIS"  

 How a Pathologist can see Bacteria causing Sarcoidosis 

"How does Doctor measure my ACE, and my D-metabolites?"

 Weaning from Prednisone

 Protecting your eyes in Sarcoidosis

Vit.D and Calcium in Sarcoidosis

Hypervitaminosis D Symptoms    The SarcInfo F.A.Q.

Medical Abbreviations          CBC Radio Show

Protocol Phase 1-First 3 months

 

** Papers for Physicians **

Antibacterial Therapy induces Remission 

Implications for Autoimmune Disease 
(Here is Fulltext preprint)

Antibacterial mechanisms for ARBs 

Antibiotics in Sarcoidosis- The 1st Year 

Rationale for abx in Sarcoidosis 

1,25-D and Angiotensin II

"New Treatments Emerge.."

Jarisch-Herxheimer in Sarcoidosis

Vit.D and Calcium in Sarcoidosis

Protocol Phase 1-First 3 months

The NIH ACCESS Study finds Sarcoidosis does not go away - Click here to see, and print, the brochure


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 *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-28-06 01:45

Many folks arrive at SarcInfo and just get 'blown away' by the huge amount of information here. It will take you some time, maybe weeks, to read all the stuff which is important to your remission.

SarcInfo focuses on the medical and technical issues surrounding Sarcoidosis and how to implement the Marshall Protocol.

Every message you post on SarcInfo will be read by the moderators, who include nurses and other health professionals.

Since many of your questions are more general, like "What do I do?", and don't fit into any of the specialized topics already created, this thread is for you to leave those questions in. Questions you leave in this thread will generally be archived after a week or so, so feel free to ask questions about your specific situations and past history.

Welcome to SarcInfo
Trevor Marshall (Admin)

ps: Don't forget to click on the
"Older Messages" link at the top-right of the front page, there is much more
information here than can fit on the front page.
pps: There is a "Search" button on every page. Make sure you select a date range of "all dates" if you want an exhaustive search of the whole database.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-28-06 02:08

Post moved to appropriate thread

Hello and Help
Author: Jamie Wooder (dial81-131-21-129.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: 10-26-06 12:39

Hi all

thank god for this site. I was diagnosed with ITP July 2005 and then subsequently had a biopsy and it was discovered to be sarcoid. What a starnge illness. I first was put on those horrible steroids presilone which although gave me some energy scared the life out of me. I had never felt so hungry and so agressive ina ll my life. My sarc cleared up and went into remission about feb march this eyar but now its back with a vengnace and its driving me mad.

As I sit here today I am in a darkedn room but symptons such as constant desire to unirinate to feel more comfortable, sore and red eyes, feel awake yet starngely asleep like one of the living dead, waking up early and not being able to go back to sleep, sometimes insonmia in general , feeling aches all over and like I have the flu and worst of all the eyes stinging, the redness, blurred vision and the irritability.

I know the eye stimulus and information can affect the brain but I often feel so depressed and irratible, the aggressive snappy thing really feels out of control, weakness, fatigue etc, the hollow shell of illness I often feel, and sometimes utter exhaustion I can feel in talking which given I sell insurance all day in a temp tp perm job all day is becoming difficult.

If they dont keep me on their due to poor sales , I'm not sure I will survive elsewhere witht eh way this condition has been lately I also get the acute sensetivity to sun like you all do and sometimes my t shirt material, my tongue, just a simple touch of skin can feel coarse and strange, ocassionally feel dizzy and often the abdominal pain, and nausea.

I have trawled this site and did initially discuss it with my doctor. He said he would back me and bearing in mind that he is from the UK that is no mean feat but then it seemed to go into remission and here I am now with it flaring it up again along with sometimes the fear and fright of active kundalini. I realise Mr Marshall has outlined a huge recovery program but I dont know where to begin as to be frank I find the size of this site overwhelming and basically was wondering if any could provide me with some basic steps i.e the glasses, medication, vitamin d,food, eat or not eat.

I have to try and beat this thing and it seems trevor has helped many of you. Its also scary to read that you can blind or die from sarcoid. How do you know its chronic and what are the tell tale signs that it has spread, just impairment in that organ. difficult to know where plummonary sacrcoid seems to effect the whole being body system.

Sorry this is so long but I am so bewildered and sickened with this disease and I need some help, not more predsolone

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-28-06 02:35

Jamie,

Welcome to SarcInfo. I do understand how you are feeling, and you have come to the right place.

First of all, Sarcoidosis does not go away on it’s own, or with Prednisilone. Prednisilone only treats the symptoms.

The NIH ACCESS Study finds Sarcoidosis does not go away

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisilone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

What happened while you were on Prednisilone, is that it reduced the inflammation temporarily, because it shut down your immune system. That allowed the CWD bacteria to flourish, and multiply. In other words, they were growing in numbers without anything to stop them. So, I’m not surprised that you say that your Sarcoidosis has returned with a vengeance.

I hope that this link will help you >> Checklist when Starting MP

And, you may find that you will start to feel better by avoiding vitamin D in foods, and supplements. The most obvious sources of vitamin D are eggs, fortified dairy products, fish, fish oil, and liver. You should also read the packaging on products to be sure that there is no vitamin D added or vitamin D foods used as ingredients such as eggs or egg yolks.

Please see:

THE IMPORTANCE OF AVOIDING VITAMIN D AND FOLIC ACID

FOODS TO AVOID

Testimonials to the need to avoid ingested Vitamin D

FOOD TIPS

Beginning to avoid sunlight now, which is also part of the MP, may also help you start to feel better sooner.

THE EFFECT OF SUNLIGHT/DAYLIGHT AND BRIGHT LIGHTS

The effect of light on the brain (amygdalla)

AVOIDING SUNLIGHT and BRIGHT LIGHTS

INCIDENT RADIATION TUTORIAL

Be sure that you have your NoIR sunglasses before you start Benicar. PROTECTING YOUR EYES Where to purchase NoIR and Bolle 100 sunglasses. You want to order the NoIR sunglasses soon as they may take some time to be delivered.

Ketoconazole 2% cream does prevent the production of 1,25-D in the skin. For more information, please see:
How does ketoconazole cream work?

Zinc Oxide Sunscreen A member-assisted research project.

Much of the information that you need is at our sister site www.Marshall Protocol.com, and I encourage you to register, and post there in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread. You will find a lot more support and assistance on that site that you isn’t as easily available here on SarcInfo,

I hope that your doctor will still work with you and the MP. There are quite a few MP members in the UK who post on www.MarshallProtocol.com.

I will be sending you additional information in an email. Let us know if you have any questions about implementing the MP.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-28-06 04:14

Post moved to appropriate thread

treatment
Author: me (c-71-231-222-61.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: 10-28-06 00:29

I've had a Doctor suggest using a new peptide developed specifcally for sarcoid to help me feel better. Has anyone come accross this.

I seem to have all the outling symptoms, fatigue, dry eye lids, body stiffness, and non related lower back problems which I've been treating with prolotherapy which has had some relief but possibly becouse of the sarcoid hasn't been totally successfuly becouse it is relying on the body's healing system to creat more cologin to stiffen of the weak legaments.

Does anyone have feedback?

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-28-06 04:22

Me,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them.

There is information at our sister site MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

The treatment that you describe may help you feel better but will not rid your body of the CWD bacteria that cause your disease, by damaging your organs. The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body. You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

You may find that you will start to feel better by avoiding vitamin D in foods, and supplements. The most obvious sources of vitamin D are eggs, fortified dairy products, fish, fish oil, and liver. You should also read the packaging on products to be sure that there is no vitamin D added.

FOODS TO AVOID

Testimonials to the need to avoid ingested Vitamin D

FOOD TIPS

Beginning to avoid sunlight now, which is also part of the MP, may also help you start to feel better sooner.

THE EFFECT OF SUNLIGHT/DAYLIGHT AND BRIGHT LIGHTS

The effect of light on the brain (amygdalla)

AVOIDING SUNLIGHT and BRIGHT LIGHTS

INCIDENT RADIATION TUTORIAL

Be sure that you have your NoIR sunglasses before you start Benicar. PROTECTING YOUR EYES Where to purchase NoIR and Bolle 100 sunglasses. You want to order the NoIR sunglasses soon as they may take some time to be delivered.

Ketoconazole 2% cream does prevent the production of 1,25-D in the skin. For more information, please see:
How does ketoconazole cream work?

Zinc Oxide Sunscreen A member-assisted research project.

I will be sending you additional information in an email. Let us know if you have any questions about implementing the MP.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-29-06 02:34

Post moved to appropriate thread

Symptoms

Author: me (c-71-231-222-61.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date: 10-29-06 02:17

I also find that eating irritates my condition. When I go a long time withougt eating I tend to feel better. Even though I've been tested to be allergic to wheat, soy, milk and gluten and have managed to stay away from it no matter what I eat I get bloated and start belching. Has anyone else had any experience with this, and has there been anything someone has done to get relief?

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-29-06 02:35

Me,

Many people with Th1 inflammation have what is know as Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) which could be part of your problem.

Have you been able to read the information that you have already been given?

Lottie

PS -- Please do not start new threads. Please post your questions in this thread.

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: me (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date:   10-29-06 12:14

My mom had irritable bowel sydrome. How do you get tested for that? I've been told its becouse of my food allergies

 
 Concerned about going on MP
Author: Natalia (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-29-06 16:48

Lottie,
this is Natalia (25D=29, 1,25D=68, a lot of symptoms, still looking for a Dr. in CT).

I have concerns about use of MP.

First, Benicar. I have low BP (90x50) and low pulse and serious circulation problems, often weak pulse, swollen legs/feet for >20 years now. The diagnosis " severe venous insufficiency in the common femoral vein and pelvic vein, with reflux time >1000m/sec, venous insufficiency in the great suphenous vein and saphenofemoral junction." I have poor capillary circulation, too.

Also, I had taken Nitrostat and/or calcium channel blockers for chest pains (as needed only). Though they relieved chest pains, they also lowered BP and caused more ankle swelling, pain and numbness almost complete loss of sensitivity in legs, extreme weakness and freezing all over, very slow shallow breathing. My cardiologist had to cancel as he was afraid of heart failure.

I tried Benicar(40 mg) and had EXACTLY the same symptoms, even from one dose. This is NOT herx. reaction but loss of circulation (BP 70x35, very weak fast pulse, couldn't move, breathe, talk, see, feel my legs, freezing "to death", headache, mental fog, ringing ears. It took ~ 2 days to recover (strong tea, several hot water bottles, socks, blankets etc. Actually, I always feel cold, fingers like ice cubes, goose bumps on face, sometimes chest like filled with snow. Is it possible to take less Benicar (20 mg??) I can't imagine taking 40 mg several times/day. I repeat, it's not herx but loss of circulation.

Interestingly, even one 40 mg dose HELPED my Kidney pains but Dr. wouldn't prescribe.

Second, Minocin. I've always had problems with antibiotics - allergies, skin rash, liver pains, indigestion. I was allergic to Tetracyclin, wnich I tried ~ 30 years ago - caused sores in my mouth and throat where the pill touched them (I don;t remember if there was swelling). Also, I am afraid of Mino's side effects, especially VASCULITIS, which I already have (an extremely painful inflammation of all blood vessels, causing blood clots in deep veins). I am in remission now and dread to ever have it again (very hard to treat, flares up again and again, I refused prednisone). By the way, it was caused my antibiotic Floxin (side effect).

Third, not being allowed digestive enzymes (Lipase, protease, amilase, etc) while on MP. All my life (it's genetic) I've been low on stomach acid, liver and pancreatic enzymes (and it's one of the reasons of gall and kidney stones in my family). I'm taking them continuously. I HAVE to take them, otherwise it's a disaster.

I wonder if there is anyone like me on MP? What's the solution?

I appreciate you mails and desire to help me. Thank you for your great effort on this site!

I'm 56 years old, artist, college instructor. Sarc. symptoms made me quit my job this September (06). Love sunlight, outdoors, seafood, active lifestyle. All of these are becoming just a beautiful memory.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-31-06 03:53

Me,

A syndrome is merely a group of symptoms. It’s really just an easier way to describe all of the symptoms with a few words.

Many people with Sarcoidosis or one of the other Th1 diseases have IBS. If you have Sarcoidosis, you don’t need any more tests.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

I hope that you are reading the information here. Your Sarcoidosis will only get worse on it’s own.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   10-31-06 04:10

Natalia,

I can understand that you are wondering if you can go on the MP.

Because you have so many concerns, I am asking that you post on www.MarshallProtocol.com, in the --

**General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread.

I am a moderator on MP.com, and there are there are also several other moderators and members who can each add their own experience and knowledge to help you feel confident that you can do the MP, and that it will work for you. I believe that you need more than the input of just one or two people.

As you spend more time on MP.com, it will be easier for you to get around it, and you will actually start to like it there.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-05-06 02:40

Post moved to appropriate thread

Symptoms
Author: chris dimambro (c-24-62-13-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: 11-04-06 21:25

I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis two years ago, I haven't seen any signs of it since. I was told it was caught in the very early stages. It was affecting my lungs. I am curious to know if the use of HGH would have an adverse effect to my sarcoidosis. I have been working out doing alot of cardio work and my lung capacity has increased over the past two years.

I guess what i want to know is could the use of hgh be very harmful to my sarcoidosis if taken between 1 and 4 iu's daily five days per week for a four to six month period. thank you for your help.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-05-06 02:41

Chris,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body, and it doesn’t go away on it’s own. We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them.

You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

There is information at our sister site www.MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. Standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

We hope you will join us at www.MarshallProtocol.com where we are continuing our Phase II study of the MP. We are now 3515 members strong so you will find enormous support for recovery there. This is where we have our extensive 'library' of information about Sarcoidosis and explanations of the treatment protocol.

I hope that you will read the information there, and post your questions in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread. The SarcInfo moderators also moderate the new study site and we'll be looking for you there.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   11-05-06 21:32

Chris,

We have no idea what you have been using, but HGH usually refers to human growth hormone. The actual growth hormones approved by the FDA are available only with a doctor's prescription, generally to treat specific conditions and deficiencies. We would not recommend those hormones by used by folks with sarcoidosis.

There has been a lot of hype about HGH, usually associated with non-FDA approved products and misleading information. Some marketers have tried to capitalize by claiming that over-the-counter products contain HGH, but the Federal Trade Commission has warned people not to be duped by those claims and to always check with their health care provider about products claiming to have HGH.

I am glad that you have been feeling better, but sarcoidosis can flare at any time if it is left untreated.

Belinda

*MODERATOR* Dx: FM 80's, sarcoidosis '01; Lung, skin, spleen, liver and neuro. Refused Prednisone. 7/02 1,25-D 61.1, 25-D 14.3. MP since '02 PhaseIII with symptoms gone, slight Herx. Improved PFTs, CTs, X-ray, energy and stamina. I walk 3-4 mi daily now

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   11-05-06 22:19

This post was moved to the appropriate thread.

Author: Voncille Johnson (cache-rtc-ab06.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 11-05-06 11:36

Hi I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis in 1997, have not really had any real sympton til this July when I started getting skin lesion, have them on buttocks, around the waistline. Was wondering if there are any cases of the bumps appearing in the pubic area? Because of the last few weeks have been getting some in that area.
Thanks

Voncille Johnson

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   11-05-06 22:33

Voncille,

Sarcoidosis can cause skin lesions anywhere on the body. The buttocks can be a common site of sarcoid skin lesions.

You can find out more about sarcoidosis symptoms and treatment, including a whole library of links to photos of skin sarcoidosis at our sister website, www.marshallprotocol.com in the thread called SARCOIDOSIS.

I hope you will continue reading the information here. Our websites are loaded with information, but our expertise is helping people implement the Marshall Protocol. You will not get well and will likely continue to deteriorate if you don't treat the underlying bacterial cause of Th1 inflammation with the Marshall Protocol.
CELL WALL DEFICIENT BACTERIA AND THE MARSHALL PROTOCOL

Our members provide personal testimonials to the efficacy of the Marshall Protocol in MARSHALL PROTOCOL SUCCESS STORIES

The What is the Marshall Protocol? forum is the best place to start your reading.

Belinda

*MODERATOR* Dx: FM 80's, sarcoidosis '01; Lung, skin, spleen, liver and neuro. Refused Prednisone. 7/02 1,25-D 61.1, 25-D 14.3. MP since '02 PhaseIII with symptoms gone, slight Herx. Improved PFTs, CTs, X-ray, energy and stamina. I walk 3-4 mi daily now

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: chris dimambro (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date:   11-05-06 22:39

the hgh i have been using is somatropin injected subcutaniously none of the oral spray stuff. It is perscribed. i didn't know if there were any cases of hgh having adverse affects on sarcoidosis patients. I feel as though if i can increase my lean muscle and reduce my body fat also reducing my overall weight will keep the condition (sarcoidosis) at bay. the only reasons i have chosen to use hgh is because i have had an impossible time losing weight. As i said before the amounts i am using is pretty minimal one to four iu's a day five days on and two days off.

Chris

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   11-05-06 23:31

Chris,

Please post your questions in our actively-moderated website at www.marshallprotocol.com. You can start a thread for questions in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread.

The SarcInfo moderators also moderate the new study site and we'll be looking for you there.

Thank you.
Belinda

*MODERATOR* Dx: FM 80's, sarcoidosis '01; Lung, skin, spleen, liver and neuro. Refused Prednisone. 7/02 1,25-D 61.1, 25-D 14.3. MP since '02 PhaseIII with symptoms gone, slight Herx. Improved PFTs, CTs, X-ray, energy and stamina. I walk 3-4 mi daily now

 
 Re: foods questions
Author: Natalia (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-07-06 17:39

Hello everybody. This is Natalia (25D=29, 1,25D=68).

I've read all the info on foods and supplements but still have many questions.

Are all Omega-3 oils bad, or only ones containing vitD? There is a link in the text to Omega-3 fatty acids that do not contain vit D, suh as:

1) Alpha-linoleic acid. I know it only as a supplement. It comes in soft gels filled with sunflower oil (which is not allowed). Is A-linoleic acid recommended as a supplement? What are its natural sources?

2) Leafy greens and nuts (seem to be OK. (Almonds are not included, probably because they are high in Calcium??). Is a food naturally high in calcium OK??

3) Is Tahini (sesame seeds) OK? What about sesame oil, is it OK?

4) Humus (chickpea dip). It also contains sesame seeds. Is it OK?

5) Soybean and canola oils. I know these are NOT OK. According to several books, soybean, canola, grapeseed, corn, cotton and peanut oils are bad. They can only be produced by a lot of processing which make them toxic. Also, Naturopathic Dr.s know now that soy proucts are not healthy (there is a lot of literature about it too).

My next question is that I can't find a good butter substitute.Most of them contain Falx oil or sunflower oil and/or several of the bad oils and/or palm oil (which is inflammatory).

What about avocado?? I used to spead it on bread like butter. Of course, it can't beat a good butter substitute for taste an texture.

Also, on this site you recommend meats- beef, pork, lamb etc. These are highly inflammatory foods which I have been avoiding. I used to eat fish and turkey, and f.f chiken breast. It seems there is not much to eat as far as proteins.

Is home made chicken soup OK? I am sure that even if you trim off most of the fat, the broth still contains a lot of VitD.

I understand egg whites are OK. I've been buying organic or cage-free eggs because all other eggs are laced with hormones and antibiotics (just as all non-organic beef, chicken, etc. and dairy). But it says on the organic egg box that they are high in omega-3 oils and contain 6% RDA of foliate. Otherwise they should be good as they contain 25% less saturated fat than regular eggs (it says on the box). Maybe they are OK, as foliate and omega-3 are not added but naturally present??

So, are there ANY Omega-3 oils that are allowed????

Another question, my eye lubricating drops contain calcium chloride as a preservative. Is added calcium OK in foods and meds in general?

Thank you! I know how hard it is to use the computer to answer all these questions (kills my eyes even in dark glasses). I appreciate your support!!

I'm 56 years old, artist, college instructor. Sarc. symptoms made me quit my job this September (06). Love sunlight, outdoors, seafood, active lifestyle. All of these are becoming just a beautiful memory.

 
 Re: foods questions
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-08-06 03:38

Natalia,

We actually suggest that people avoid supplements when on the MP, as there is always the question about how it may affect the immune system, and if it may contain occult (hidden) vitamin D.

Why do I have to stop taking supplements?

I thought all OTC supplements were safe. Which ones should I be concerned about?

Soy products are not recommended primarily because it can affect the thyroid adversely.

The extra “omega-3 oil” that is in the eggs you mention is probably in the yolk, which you should not be eating from any egg because of the vitamin D that is in the egg yolk. You can eat the egg white as a source of protein. I toss out the egg yolk and use the white. There are tips on using eggs in cooking in “Food Tips”

If the food is not listed as one to avoid here >>
FOODS TO AVOID it is not considered to be a source of vitamin D.

FOOD TIPS

Almonds are acceptable.

If you have problems with calcium, then you may want to avoid foods that are high in calcium at least until you get your D metabolite levels down.

At levels above about 42 pg/ml, the 1,25-D (generated by the Th1 inflammation) begins to stimulate bone osteoclasts (http://tinyurl.com/dp7a9), causing bone to be resorbed (dissolved) back into the bloodstream. Not only does this lead to osteoporosis, but also to calcium being deposited into soft tissue of the body, including the lungs, breasts, muscle bundles (Fibromyalgia) and the kidneys (where it forms kidney stones). A Review - Vitamin D and Calcium in Sarcoidosis

I admit that I use butter in moderation. (I get mine from Trader Joe’s. Their butter is from hormone free cows) I started using it because prior to my being on the MP, I had to eat a fairly low salt diet, and couldn’t find unsalted margarine. And, I eat chicken sometimes with the skin, sometimes not. I also eat beef, pork and lamb, and my 25D is less than 5 ng/ml. It has had no affect on my cholesterol levels. The primary inflammation that is experienced by people with Th1 disease, is the inflammation that results from the activity of the Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria that cause the disease.

I hope that you have ordered the NoIR glasses. They can help your eyes quite a bit when using the computer or watching TV. Don't be concerned about the calcium that is in the eye drops. You do want to be careful about taking additional calcium in supplements though.

Please ask any additional questions in our actively-moderated website at www.MarshallProtocol.com

At your thread for questions >>
Natalia's questions

The more often that you post there and in that thread, the more moderators and MP members will see your questions and concerns, who may also be able to help you with their experiences. If you still don’t understand the answer to a question, or it hasn’t been answered after a day or so, you may ask it again on MarshallProtocol.com.

Thank you,

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 a lot of questions. Are these sarc. symptoms?? How can i get a formal diagnosis?
Author: Natalia (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-08-06 21:56

Lottie, this is Natalia ( 25d =29, 125d=68)
thank you so much for a detailed answer. I just realized you are a RN, that's why you know about nutrition.
So I understand SESAME SEEDSand AVOCADO are OK?
I did get two pairs of Noir glasses, both wraparound, medium and darkest. The darkest are good for computer screen, but have to move them away from the eyes each time to type a word. Still, even with these darkest glasses, eyes start burning after ~ 1/2 hour.
DO I NEED TO ALSO COVER MY FACE AND HANDS WHEN I SIT AT THE COMPUTER/ TV?? IS TV ALLOWED? doesn't it irradiate you??
I got the protective cream from England (forgot the name, 2%) but am afraid to use it. I didn't know it's a sulfa cream and I'm allergic to sulfa.

Lottie, I do need your advice as a med. professional. i'M HIDING FROM LIGHTS AND CHANGED MY DIET, STILL I FEEL WORSE EVERY DAY.
I have a lot of burning pains all over my body, also bad kidney pains, nausea (and protein in urine - 125, don't know what units, but Dr. is not concerned), constant thirst, and more new neurological symptoms every day. I WONDER IF THESE ARE SARC. SYMPTOMS - SUDDEN PAIN AT THE BACK OF HEAD AND NECK, MENTAL FOG, LOSS OF BALANCE, SHOOTIND PAINS DOWN SHOULDERS, ARMS, LEGS, CHEST, BURNING PAINS IN THE SPINE, WEAK MUSCLES, TINGLING TONGUE AND CHIN, PAINFUL SPASMS IN JAWS AND THROAT, CAN'T TALK OR SWALLOW, HARD TO BREATHE. IT CAN LAST MORE THAN AN HOUR (EVEN HALF THE NIGHT, WAKES ME UP) THEN GETS BETER BY ITSELF. This happens every day now, more than once. Neurologist (s), Pulmonologist, reumatologist found nothing wrong. All my tests are normal. Was recommended seeing a psychiatrist.
HOW CAN I GET A FORMAL DIAGNOSIS TO BE TREATED WITH AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF RESPECT????
Would another head MRI be helpful? Does it have to catch that specific moment when I have these episodes? Head CT in December 05 was normal (when I thought it was a stroke), head MRI in Jan.06 was normal, chest CT with contrast in November 05 was normal (when I couldn't breathe and had awful lung pains). As of today,Drs. say there is no indication for a PET scan. Also, they believe that sarc has to be diagnosed by a pulmonologist, but now my worst pain in in the kidneys (with all urine tests normal).
Would expensive immunological tests (IL2, IL4, IL6, TGF-beta, mycoplasma TB) help to convince mainstream Drs that I'm really sick? They don't believe in vitD tests.
I called the closest MP Dr. (more than an hour away, doesn't accept my insurance), but he is not enthusiastic about seeing me as I'm allergic to ARBs -Benicar, Vasotech, Diovan (swallen throat and lips, cough, itch). I left a message with his nurse, but he didn't return my call. I NEED AT LEAST A DIAGNOSIS, A FORMAL ACKNOWLEGEMENT THAT I'M SICK. Can an MP Dr. order a PET scan?
I wonder if I'm the only one allergic to ARBs. What are my options?

I'm 56 years old, artist, college instructor. Sarc. symptoms made me quit my job this September (06). Love sunlight, outdoors, seafood, active lifestyle. All of these are becoming just a beautiful memory.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Meg (---.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com)
Date:   11-09-06 05:43

Natalia,

Please post your questions in our actively-moderated website at www.marshallprotocol.com. You can start a thread for questions in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread.

The SarcInfo moderators also moderate the new study site and we'll be looking for you there.

Thank you.
Meg

 
 Sarcoidosis and environmental exposure
Author: william jolliff (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date:   11-17-06 11:34

Hi all,

I became ill in September 2005, never been sick besides colds my hole life I'm 48. Through all the test and broncos and open lung biopsy they came back with stage 4 sarcoidosis and pulmonary fibrosis. I became involved with a workmans comp case with a fellow employee and had to see his lawyer. When I met with his lawyer they showed me a letter that the President of our company had written stating that there was something on the job that was making people sick (breathing problems, flu like symptoms)could this be where my sarc came from or this substance pushed me over the edge

Thanks for any help.
Billy

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   11-17-06 13:07

Billy,

Sarcoidosis symptoms can flare with exposure to fumes, mold and odors in the environment, but we know these do not cause the disease. Sarcoidosis is caused by antibiotic-resistant bacteria that are hard to recognize or culture under normal laboratory conditions because these bacteria live and grow in human tissue, within the immune system cells.

We've had members who've had significant intolerance to odors, fumes, mold and smoke recover from that intolerance using the Marshall Protocol as therapy. I am one of those. I actually used to wear a carbon-filter mask over my face and nose whenever I left my house, to avoid sudden ugly flares in my coughing and breathing symptoms. Those days are long gone.

I hope you will continue reading the information here. I've sent you additional information by email. You will not get well and will continue to deteriorate if you don't treat the underlying bacterial cause of Th1 inflammation with the Marshall Protocol.
CELL WALL DEFICIENT BACTERIA AND THE MARSHALL PROTOCOL

Our members provide personal testimonials to the efficacy of the Marshall Protocol in MARSHALL PROTOCOL SUCCESS STORIES

The What is the Marshall Protocol? forum is the best place to start your reading.

PHASE ONE MARSHALL PROTOCOL is a detailed guideline of the first three months. The second and third phases are available upon request at completion of phase one. Your physician can see the entire protocol in the Section for Medical Professionals.

The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations provides less technical discriptions which will help you understand the cause of Th1 inflammation and how to treat it safely and successfully.

If your doctor is unfamiliar with the Marshall Protocol, this thread contains SUGGESTIONS TO GET YOUR DOCTOR ON BOARD WITH THE MP.

If you need a supportive doctor, POST REQUESTS FOR DOCTORS IN THIS THREAD.

To determine if the MP is the right treatment for you, ask your doctor to test your D-Metabolites. When you get the results, post the actual numbers in the Preliminary test results forum for expert analysis because results within the normal lab ranges can still be abnormal. For details see Vitamin D Tutorial

You should begin immediately to avoid all ingested sources of Vitamin D:
THE IMPORTANCE OF AVOIDING INGESTED VITAMIN D
FOODS TO AVOID and FOODS SAFE TO EAT

Order your NoIR sunglasses NOW because they may take a few weeks to arrive and you cannot begin Benicar without them. Ordering information is in: PROTECTING YOUR EYES

You will need to learn all about the importance of:
AVOIDING SUNLIGHT and BRIGHT LIGHTS
Incident Radiation Tutorial

These Testimonials to the Need for Avoiding Sun/lights. by our members provide convincing personal experiences.

Your health care provider can communicate with other medical professionals using the Marshall Protocol by joining MP.com and applying for admission to the Private Section for Medical Professionals. S/he will be interested in the Papers for Physicians. Please encourage him/her to call or email Dr. Marshall if needed. His contact information is on all his professional papers.

Our 2005 International Conference presented talks by many experts, information on the MP and testimonials by recovering patients. You can purchase these informative DVDS on our AutoImmunity Foundation website.

Let us know if you have any questions not answered in ESSENTIAL INFO ABOUT THE MP or Marshall Protocol FAQs. This thread will be your website spot to ask pre-MP questions. It is our pleasure to assist you in any way.

All the Best,
Belinda

P.S. When you have a minute, please add the required signature line so we can better assist you. Thank you.

*MODERATOR* Dx: FM 80's, sarcoidosis '01; Lung, skin, spleen, liver and neuro. Refused Prednisone. 7/02 1,25-D 61.1, 25-D 14.3. MP since '02 PhaseIII with symptoms gone, slight Herx. Improved PFTs, CTs, X-ray, energy and stamina. I walk 3-4 mi daily now

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Denise (---.nsw.bigpond.net.au)
Date:   11-20-06 02:10

I was wondering whether sarcoidosis can cause ACE to have an effect on the electrolytes.

My Na and Cl levels are borderline. One just within normal range and the other the upper level of the normal range. eGFR was normal.

Gastroscopy showed I have gastritis - not from drinking but possibly NSAID use or even sarcoid? I hope they did a biopsy.

I am getting crampy pains in hands and feet and in arms which is new. I am also urinating a lot lately though I don't feel excessively thirsty. This is all new - should I be worried.

The gastrologist talked about sending me to an endocrinologist.

If I get time I will post ranges later. I see new rheumatologist tomorrow.

Den

Diag 1999, Flare 2004, pos CXR 2006. ACE 71 ESR 23

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-20-06 03:07

Denise,

Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body. Damage caused to the organs in your body can cause many imbalances in the blood’s chemistry. Prior to starting the MP, I was unable to retain potassium even while taking large quantities of it in prescription form.

Even if they didn’t do a biopsy, you can assume that the cause of you gastritis is related to your Sarcoidosis. If they did do a biopsy, they could very easily miss tissue that contains the granulomas that would confirm that the gastritis is Sarcoidosis related.

All of the symptoms that you have mentioned can very easily be due to your Sarcoidosis. The only way available at this time to allow you to get well is the Marshall Protocol. Any doctor can prescribe the medications that you need to take, and further testing will not change the fact that you are very ill with Sarcoidosis. You should be concerned about the increase in your symptoms. Sarcoidosis does not go away, and the symptoms appear as damage occurs within an organ or body system that does not allow it to function properly.

Please post all future messages on our more up-to-date website at www.marshallprotocol.info where you can start your own thread for questions in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** forum.

The SarcInfo moderators also moderate this new study site and we'll be looking for you there.

Thank you,

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Neurosaroidosis
Author: Janet Torelli (---.jax.bellsouth.net)
Date:   11-28-06 09:26

I was diagnosed with central nervous system sarcoid over a year ago by Mayo but was never told. Even though I still couldn't breath, they dismissed me without treatment and told me to give them a call when my rash came back. They refused to do any biopsies after I made several requests. I finally got my Immunologist to look at the CAT of my sinuses and he placed me on Keflex for a month. I got better. The rashreturned in July and the breathing started to go bad in Sept. After I figured it out myself, I obtained my medical records from Mayo and discovered they knew the same thing I knew. I am a Dental Hygienist and I work three days a week, when I am breathing. Now that I am feeling better, I was sent home due to my bosses fear I was going to have a seizure or pass out on a patient. He will not let me return to work until I have a Dr clear me. When I get dizzy and can't breath am I having a patial seizure or is it just due to the chest muscles? Is there any Doctor in Jacksonville Florida who knows anything accurate about Sarcoidosis. I appear to be the only knoweldgeable one in the whole city! I have an appointment with my immunologist today and I am going to attempt to discuss MP with him.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   11-28-06 21:16

Janet,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

As you have found out the hard way, most doctors, including specialists, know very little about Sarcoidosis.

Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body. If a person has Sarcoidosis anywhere, any further symptoms are most likely due to Sarcoidosis.

There is information at our sister site MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

Many of us have found that our Primary Care Physician is more open to thinking outside the box, and willing to prescribe the MP. Many of us are educating our doctors about the MP.

SUGGESTIONS TO GET YOUR DOCTOR ON BOARD WITH THE MP

Because we have outgrown SarcInfo, we ask that you register and post any further questions on our new site, www.MarshallProtocol.com, where you will find much support from the staff and other MP members.

Please do not ask the same questions on both sites, or more than once on either site, as the moderators get copies of all the posts.

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Rosalyn (---.clvdoh.adelphia.net)
Date:   12-14-06 14:17

I was diagnosed with sarc in 2004. I have been doing the protocal on and off for 2 years. My questions is does it matter what city you live in. Are some states more harmful due to weather. I live in Cleveland we have four seasons. How beneficial would in be if I moved to a milder climate. I feel fine now just a little labored breathing. Thank you

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-15-06 02:41

Rosalyn,

Sarcoidosis is a Th1 disease, a chronic infection. It does not matter where you live. There are people living all over the world who have Sarcoidosis. Weather isn’t a factor.

I live in a much more “temperate” climate than Cleveland, but we still have extreme temperatures. Either high or low, they do affect how I feel, but not as much as my health improves on the MP.

Doing the protocol off and on won’t help you to get well. You have a chronic infection, and will only get worse if you don’t do something to get over it. Labored breathing is an indication that you are still ill. The Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria will continue to grow, and cause more damage the longer they go unchecked. The symptoms don't show up until the organ or organs that the bacteria are affecting is damaged to a point that it can no longer properly function.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Belinda (---.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
Date:   12-15-06 09:15

Rosalyn,

If you are not a registered member of our sister website, www.marshallprotocol.com, please allow me to welcome and urge you to sign up there. See HOW TO REGISTER.

We find that patients who are active on the board forum, posting their progress on the MP as well as their questions, are the ones who fare the best. In addition to the moderators, there are caring, compassionate folks there who are also recovering and who are willing to share their coping tips and experience.

I look forward to seeing your posts over there.

Belinda

*MODERATOR* Dx: FM 80's, sarcoidosis '01; Lung, skin, spleen, liver and neuro. Refused Prednisone. 7/02 1,25-D 61.1, 25-D 14.3. MP since '02 PhaseIII with symptoms gone, slight Herx. Improved PFTs, CTs, X-ray, energy and stamina. I walk 3-4 mi daily now

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Carol Vachon (---.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)
Date:   12-17-06 04:16

Hi I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis.
I have now experienced pain in the left chest under the rib cage where the first spots where seen on exray then through a PET scan they have now moved to the right lung but no pain yet.
I have also gotten a red swollen pinky finger with itchness turning into tiny tiny blisters that erupt and cause a scab then go away with it moving abit to the left or right of the first spot.
I have also gotten a small itchy lump or bump on the base of my head in the back near where my head meets my neck which comes and goes and moves to the left or right of each time it reappers.
Along with that I have had what feels like a stiff neck for the past 6 weeks that will radiate down the right side to my shoulder. It sometimes will cause a sharp pain if I move a certain way, but not often. I saw my doctor and he said we will keep an eye on it.
As you can see I have strange things going on and I am tired more then usual by the end of the day and actually falling asleep watching tv which has never happened especially at 6 pm.
I have not told my doctor about the bumps on my finger and pain in left lung/rib area. I just don't want him to think I am turning into a hypocondriac or something. I don't like to complain.
I did show him the neck area where at that time the swelling was next to my spinal coid where it meets my neck and he said he did feel it but maybe it is just my spinal coid since it is prevaliant more then most and we can keep an eye on it if the pain does not go away. The small lumps are more on my head above the spinal cord in the back of my neck which were not inflamed at the time.
Do these sound like symptoms from the sarcoidosis and does it mean it is getting worse now?
Please email me at my home email for the answer and post your response here please so that it may help others to.

I feel like I am just having so many strange things going on and it is scaring me but then I don't want to worry my husband and bother my doctor.

Thank you for you time,
Sincerely,
Carol

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-26-06 22:28

Post moved to appropriate thread

Gathering info
Author: Fred Hoag
(adsl-145-148-51.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 12-26-06 20:44

Hi,

This is my first post. I am looking for some guidance.

Three years ago, at the age of 35, I developed a severe case of psoriasis on my legs and lower back. Shortly there after I developed psoriatic arthritis of the fingers, toes and hips. My finger nails had the classic pitting and the joints of my fingers were always burning hot. I was in constant pain, somedays unable to walk without limping due to the pain in my toes.

The Dermotologist I visited gave me a few different steroid creams for the psoriasis, which did absolutely nothing. On my third visit he basically told me that psoriasis and arthritis runs in families and that I would have to learn to cope with these conditions.

My condition only worsened over the following few months. In the evenings I would have chest pain and my right arm would fall asleep easily. I was extremely depressed. Would I be in a wheelchair in a year?

My wife suggested an alternative doctor she had heard good things about. I was skeptical, but also desperate, so I went to see her. Long story short, she pretty much cleared my conditions in eight weeks by restoring my intestinal integrity through diet and suppliments. It had mainly to do with eliminating some offending proteins. I had been on a high protein diet.

Everything was great, with only an occasional mild flare-up of the joint on my right thumb.

About a month ago I noticed what I thought to be a pulled muscle at the edge of my upper right ribcage, above my liver. A nagging pain that would come and go. I also started to feel a bit run down, which I attributed to higher than usual stress levels at work. This progressed to overwelming fatigue and constant muscle twitching.

I went back to my alternative doctor with these symptoms. She gave me a shot of B-12 and magnesium which she said would stop the twitching. She also put me on an elimination diet. She sent me in for a complete blood test which included the vitamin D tests. Results should be back this week.

Since that visit, things have gone downhill. The last few days have been filled with relentling muscle twitching. I am extremely fatigued and gittery, but can not sleep for more than a two hour stretch. When I awake, my whole right side is tingling or is completely numb.

I would like to find a physician in my area that I could talk to about the Marshall Protocol. I mentioned it to my alternative Dr. and she said that she never heard if it. I didn't push the subject. I would rather speak to someone who at least has a basic understanding of the MP. Perhaps someone who is treating others with similar ailments.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I live in Atlanta.

Once I get the vitamin D test back, I'll be ready to do it!

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-26-06 23:28

Carol,

Welcome to SarcInfo. I apologize that your post was missed, and that it has taken so long to get back to you.

Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body. If you have a diagnosis of Sarcoidosis, then you should suspect that Sarcoidosis could be the cause of any symptoms that you have.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them. And, it will more than likely get worse without proper treatment.

There is information here showing that Sarcoidosis does not go away on it’s own, or with the standard immunosuppressants. The NIH ACCESS Study finds Sarcoidosis does not go away

You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

There is a lot of information at our new site www.Marshall Protocol.com including, The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations and, information about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

I hope that you will continue to read as much as you can, and register, and ask any further questions in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread on www.MarshallProtocol.com

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-26-06 23:53

Fred,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

You have come to the right place! We have a number of people who have Rheumatoid Arthritis, Psoriasis, and Psoriatic Arthitis, who are doing well on the Marshall Protocol.

If your doctor is open to the MP, she may be the best doctor to help you through the MP, in that she already has some knowledge about you, and your problems. Many of us have found that our Primary Care Physician is more open to the MP than the specialists are.

Even if you are fortunate enough to find a doctor who is willing to prescribe the MP, no doctor has the time to fill in all the information that the patient needs to follow the MP and get well. The more you know ahead of starting it, the easier it will be. It is up to the patient to be sure that the doctor follows the MP as it is written.
PHASE ONE GUIDELINE

SAFETY WARNING

The following forums are required reading before you begin the Marshall Protocol:

ESSENTIAL INFO ABOUT THE MP

Marshall Protocol FAQs

I also urge you to register at www.MarshallProtocol.com and post in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread.

In the meantime, you may find that you will start to feel better by avoiding vitamin D in foods, and supplements. The most obvious sources of vitamin D are eggs, fortified dairy products, fish, fish oil, and liver. You should also read the packaging on products to be sure that there is no vitamin D added.

FOODS TO AVOID

Testimonials to the need to avoid ingested Vitamin D

FOOD TIPS

Beginning to avoid sunlight now, which is also part of the MP, may also help you start to feel better sooner.

THE EFFECT OF SUNLIGHT/DAYLIGHT AND BRIGHT LIGHTS

The effect of light on the brain (amygdala)

AVOIDING SUNLIGHT and BRIGHT LIGHTS

INCIDENT RADIATION TUTORIAL

Be sure that you have your NoIR sunglasses before you start Benicar. PROTECTING YOUR EYES Where to purchase NoIR and Bolle 100 sunglasses. You want to order the NoIR sunglasses soon as they may take some time to be delivered.

Ketoconazole 2% cream does prevent the production of 1,25-D in the skin. For more information, please see:
How does ketoconazole cream work?

“Regular” Sunscreens do not block the sun’s rays that stimulate the production of 1,25D. However, there is a summary of a member assisted research project of the sunscreens which do contain Zinc Oxide.
Summary of information on Sunscreens containing Zinc Oxide

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: spencer jennings (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
Date:   01-07-07 09:36

i live in the uk and was diagnosed with sarcoids just over a year ago.I am seeing a consultant at a hospital in dartford.Just before christmas i had a chest x-ray and at the next meeting was told that he wanted me to start a course of steriods.I said no as i did not like the list of side effects that i was hearing.the upshot is i had another blood test and have to go back 6th feb for another x-ray when he will decide wether i need the steriods.the thing is i have no symptoms and feel fine so why should i take the damn things, also i have only ever had 1 lung function test would it be advisable to ask to have another to see if there has been any decrease over the last year.Iam also moving to australia in six months time lots of sunshine and i work outdoors good thing or bad??
this site is full of usefull info the difficult bit is working out what it all means!
any help you could give me would be a lot better thanwhat i get from my consultant i.e dont worry not fatal will usually go away on its own

cheers from a dazed and confused brit

spencer jennings

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   01-08-07 01:28

Spencer,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them. Sarcoidosis does not go away on it’s own.

The NIH ACCESS Study finds Sarcoidosis does not go away

The standard treatments such as steroids (Prednisone and/or Prednisilone) and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria.

The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

There is information at our new site MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

You may find that you will start to feel better by avoiding vitamin D in foods, and supplements. The most obvious sources of vitamin D are eggs, fortified dairy products, fish, fish oil, and liver. You should also read the packaging on products to be sure that there is no vitamin D added.

FOODS TO AVOID

Testimonials to the need to avoid ingested Vitamin D

FOOD TIPS

Why do I have to stop taking supplements?

I thought all OTC supplements were safe. Which ones should I be concerned about?

Your question about being outside may be answered by the following. Beginning to avoid sunlight now, which is also part of the MP, may also help you start to feel better sooner.

THE EFFECT OF SUNLIGHT/DAYLIGHT AND BRIGHT LIGHTS

The effect of light on the brain (amygdala)

AVOIDING SUNLIGHT and BRIGHT LIGHTS

INCIDENT RADIATION TUTORIAL

Be sure that you have your NoIR sunglasses before you start Benicar. PROTECTING YOUR EYES Where to purchase NoIR and Bolle 100 sunglasses. You want to order the NoIR sunglasses soon as they may take some time to be delivered.

Ketoconazole 2% cream does prevent the production of 1,25-D in the skin. For more information, please see:
How does ketoconazole cream work?

“Regular” Sunscreens do not block the sun’s rays that stimulate the production of 1,25D. However, there is a summary of a member assisted research project of the sunscreens which do contain Zinc Oxide.
Summary of information on Sunscreens containing Zinc Oxide

Since you are planning to be in Australia, you might like to join the recently formed Australian Autoimmunity Foundation where you will find resources and information on how to access the necessaries for the Marshall Protocol e.g. NoIR sunglasses - vital for eye protection. << Adequate eye protection will be particularly important for anyone with eye inflammation. So, apart from reading and learning: order the glasses as they may take some time to come.

As we have outgrown SarcInfo.com, please register at our new site, www.MarshallProtocol.com, and post any future questions in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread. You should start your own thread, and post any questions that you may have there.

You will also find the following MarshallProtocol.com, the following forums which are required reading before you begin the Marshall Protocol:

ESSENTIAL INFO ABOUT THE MP

Marshall Protocol FAQs

We do realize that there is a lot of information and the moderators and other MP members will be happy to help you on MarshallProtocol.com.

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Julia (---.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
Date:   01-08-07 06:59

Hi Spencer, from a fellow Brit across the Irish Sea!

You're lucky that you've got a diagnosis before serious symptoms develop. Sarc doesn't go away on its own, though it can be in remission for a while.

Unfortunately the move to sunnier climes is likely to be very unhelpful. It was a sunny holiday (in Scotland would you believe!) that made me very ill. Sarc sufferers make way too much vitamin D and don't need the extra that our skin makes in sunshine.

I never had bad lung function tests. But sarc can attack any organ in your body - mine first showed itself with uveitis in my eyes. That cleared up on the Marshall Protocol, and so did many other things that I had no idea were related to sarc - like lifelong allergies.

I highly recommend the Marshall Protocol, even if you're not feeling ill at present. If you leave it until you're more ill it gets tougher to do. It takes some commitment, but it's well worth it.

The big problem is finding a doctor prepared to prescribe such a new, little-known treatment. Most of us have had more success with our GPs than with consultants, who tend to think they know everything there is to know. But there are some UK folks who are on the MP, so it can be done if you're persistent.

Do register at www.MarshallProtocol.com and you'll find lots of friendly folk willing to answer your questions. No-one's trying to sell you anything, and all the moderators are volunteers. See you there!

Best wishes

Julia (Belfast)

Belfast, UK. Sarc dx Spring '03. No D tests. Light/Vit D restriction 8/03, Mino 2/04, +Benicar 5/04. Phase 2 from 8/04, Phase 3 from 11/04. Benicar 4x40.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   01-29-07 06:22

Post moved to appropriate thread

sarcoidosis?
Author: A (CPE000c6e2374d4-CM024370005864.cpe.net.cable.roger)
Date: 01-26-07 10:45

I have been sick for 5 months now (coughing, shortness of breath, tiredness, paleness etc. ). At first I thought it was a cold. After 3 weeks it hadn't gone away so I went to a clinic . I had no fever only a sore throat and a bad cough. The doctor there told me I must have a mild pnuemonia.

He took an x-ray and prescribed me some antibiotics. He told me he was sending the x-ray onto someone else to read it, but I could see what looked like a cloud in my right lung. I was supposed to get better after 6 days. I never did. I felt a little less tired and some of my colour came back but I was still coughing badly and suffering from shortness of breath. I heard my lungs "gurgle" shortly after and went back to the clinic. Another doctor told me I had developed acute asthma caused by the pnuemonia.

He prescribed me two puffers, one steroid, one non-steriod. Those helped a little. I went to my family doctor about 10 days later and he also said I had asthma and prescribed me more medication and some prednisone. I had to go back after a few weeks for more prednisone because after I had ran out I felt terribly short of breath again. All this while I was taking the puffers also.

My family doctor then sent me for a ct scan, blood work and more recently a echo? (heart) test which showed that there is no problem with my heart. I have been informed that I have "lumps"in my lungs and that I should consider getting rid of any allergens (I have never been tested) in my house. I have shortness of breath constantly, especially if I climb a flight of stairs. I am putting on a lot of weight (I think caused by the drugs) and I am not seeming to get any better. I was taking singulair but it had no effect.

I query sarcoidosis because my mother has been suffering from the disease since before I was born she is in stage 4 with permanent damage. I am very concerned because I mentioned this to my doctor and he does not seem to want to accept the possibility, or do any testing for it. I have had to fight to see a specialist and this is not until August. By then it will have been almost a year since I started getting sick. Is this not too late?

I have undergone a pulmonary function test which showed restriction in my lungs. I am relatively young, mid thirties with young children at home, never smoked, always been active.

If anyone can tell me where to go to next I would be most grateful.

Thank you

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   01-29-07 06:42

A.

Welcome to SarcInfo.

It sounds as though you could be correct that you have developed Sarcoidosis. It is not at all unusual for family members to develop Sarcoidosis or another of the Th1 diseases.

Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body.
And, many doctors know very little about it, especially that we now know the cause. We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them. The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

As this site has become outdated, I hope that you will join us on our new site >>
www.Marshall Protocol.com where there is additional information, such as:

Information about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

And: The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

You may also find that the MP will benefit your mother. We have many people who have been in advanced stages of Sarcoidosis who are getting better.

I hope that you will register at Marshall Protocol.com >> How to Register and Use This Board, and ask questions about the MP, and for help regarding implementing the Marshall Protocol (MP) in our General Discussion thread, here >>
**General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread

You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis or another Th1 disease that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

The next time that you have blood tests done, you should have your doctor order the D metabolites tests and other tests for inflammation as noted here... D METABOLITES TESTS. Read the information about the proper handling of the specimen. Be SURE THAT THE LAB KNOWS THAT THE 1,25 D SAMPLE MUST BE KEPT FROZEN as soon as it is "spun down", and then kept frozen while in transit and until testing is done.

When you get the results, please obtain a copy, and post the actual numbers from the results on our sister site, Marshall Protocol.com in the thread named ”Preliminary test results”, and we will help you evaluate them for your doctor. Please read the information which is listed in the first post “WHAT to INCLUDE in your preliminary test result reports”, and include the requested information along with your results. You will be starting your own thread in that section. You can let us know here on SarcInfo if you have any problems starting your own thread there.

Do not accept the term “normal range” for the results, you want the actual numbers. Even what is considered “normal”, or even low, can indicate Th1 inflammation. This will help to give you an idea of how much inflammation that you have going on in your body.

There are more moderators at MP.com, as well as many MP members in various stages of the protocol, who are more than happy to help newcomers feel comfortable, and successful with the MP. I do hope that we will see you there.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   01-29-07 06:48

Post moved to appropriate thread

Just Diagnosed
Author: danny (pool-72-68-194-89.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: 01-26-07 11:51

I am a 21 year old male who was recently diagnosed with sarcoidosis. The advent of the disease remains a mystery to me though I had long suffered from a sporadic rash. The diagnosis was finalized by my physician following a CT scan revealing 5 lung nodules ranging in size present in my right lung and a blood test indicating an elevated ACE level. Aside from the rash mentioned earlier I do experience some pain in my ankle and knee joints. Additionally I have taken note of some granulomas present under my skin. I do not however, have any pulmonary complications. My physician has opted to treat me with 60 mg doses of prednisone for three months.


After researching the lengthy list of side effects resulting from streroids I opted to conduct a little research in regards to the disease and came across this website. I have been reading profusely about the marshall plan and it seems quite promising.

I contacted my physician in regards to the protocol and he responded that due to its experimental nature he does not feel comfortable treating me on the protocol and advised I seek out someone with more experience.

As such I was wondering if you could please provide me with a list of doctors in the NY area, I live in New York City, that have either treating patients of sarcoidosis utilizing the plan before (preferable) or would be willing to treat them.

Thank you.

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   01-29-07 07:06

Danny,

Welcome to SarcInfo. I’m glad that you have found this site.

As this site has become outdated, I hope that you will join us on our new site >>
www.Marshall Protocol.com

There is additional information there MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

As well as more information about the Marshall Protocol (MP) The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

I hope that you will also register there…
How to Register and Use the MarshallProtocol.com Board

There are SUGGESTIONS TO GET YOUR DOCTOR ON BOARD WITH THE MP << here, and you may post your request for a doctor who may be willing to work with you in this thread at Marshall Protocol.com >>
POST REQUESTS FOR DOCTORS HERE

Even if you are fortunate enough to find a doctor who is willing to prescribe the MP, no doctor has the time to fill in all the information that the patient needs to follow the MP and get well. The more you know ahead of starting it, the easier it will be. It is up to the patient to be sure that the doctor follows the MP as it is written.
PHASE ONE GUIDELINE

SAFETY WARNING

The following forums are required reading before you begin the Marshall Protocol, and may have answers to some of the questions that you may still have:

ESSENTIAL INFO ABOUT THE MP

Marshall Protocol FAQs

You are also urged to ask questions and for any additional help you may have regarding implementing the Marshall Protocol (MP) in our General Discussion thread, here >>
**General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread Once you start a thread there, it is yours to ask questions in prior to beginning the MP.

There are more moderators there, as well as many MP members in various stages of the protocol, who are more than happy to help newcomers feel comfortable, and successful with the MP.

If you have any problems with registering or posting at MarshallProtocol.com, please let us know here.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   02-18-07 22:51

Post moved to appropriate thread

lung tranplant
Author: michael (cache-mtc-aa09.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 02-18-07 20:11

I have had sarc since I was 19 , I am now 55 in june, my doctor say my lung are damaged beyond repair they cannot be help by using any type of drugs.

I was recomended for lung transplant in 1998 and still remain on the active list even dough I have had cancer which is in remission, I haven't been sick enough I felt to go thur with the operation and my doctor agrees.

I do have bouts with bronchitis and phneumonia and yes I use o2 24 /7 with out it I guess I would have no life and without prednisone also but I know there most be an alturnitive for this and I hope that one will be discovered before this decease get to point of no cure for the many that suffer from it each year ; not knowing what is happening to them.

I would love to know how I can make my life easier without daily dose of med I take but at this point its beyond my control I feel God and the medical society can help me farther my life My faith in God as a heeler and the special gifts that he has bless the medical professionals with learning to heel and cure these deceases.

I thank you for your time and reading my statement.

michael seeney

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   02-18-07 22:57

Michael,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

A cure for Sarcoidosis has been discovered, and there are many people who are on it now. The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the name of the treatment.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

Please start by reading the information here >>
The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

Because of the number of people who are now getting well on the MP we ask that individuals join us on our new site, where we can more easily help each person. www.MarshallProtocol.com

There is information on how to register there at this link >>

How to Register and Use This Board

There is information at MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

If you will register, and post your information there, the moderators can help you with questions that you may still have about the Marshall Protocol (MP).

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   02-22-07 07:59

Post moved to appropriate thread

In home care
Author: Josh (LAW-UL153-TAX.gsu.edu)
Date: 02-21-07 16:21

I have a question about neurosarcoidosis. Is it possible for the symptoms of this disease to become such that a person will need full time in home medical care? I know this is a competely variable scenario dependent upon one's individual symptoms, but worst case is full time nursing care a possibility or are people generally able to survive the disease on their own without full time intervention?

Thank you for your consideration of this question.

J

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   02-22-07 08:01

Josh,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

I hope that you will read the information here and on our new site www.Marshall Protocol.com that is available to you about Sarcoidosis. Sarcoidosis is a systemic disease that can affect any and all organs in your body.

We don’t plan on people getting worse with any form of Sarcoidosis. We expect Sarcoidosis patients to get well, as many who are on the Marshall Protocol (MP) are doing.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them.

There is information at our sister site MarshallProtocol.com about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria, and help you get well. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

SarcInfo has become outdated, and I hope that you will join us on our new site >> www.Marshall Protocol.com

There is information on how to register there at this link >>

How to Register and Use This Board

We welcome you to ask any questions that you may still have in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread on our new site.

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury


Josh,

The email I sent you was returned. Please correct your email address in your profile so that I can re-send it. For your and our safety, only the Administration and Moderators can see your email address.

Lottie

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Sharon R. Milosh (---.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com)
Date:   03-05-07 01:44

03/05/07

I was diagnosed with Sarcoidosis in June after complaining of pneumonia, flu like symptoms. I have suffered for many years with chronic fatigue, muscle pain, nausea, dizziness, malnutrition, depression, irritability and was diagnosed years ago with Fibromyalgia, I have undergone x-rays, sonograms, cat scans, MRI's, biopsies, and all kinds of oscopies. I'm waiting results for a colonoscopy at this time. I told my doctor they might do better by just doing an autopsy. The bad symptoms started in March, the doctor kept telling me I was getting older and had the flu, I developed an annoying cough that wore me out and after insisting that something was wrong, it was May and I had enough, long story short, after all kinds of tests, x-rays, I got a call from my doctor saying I either had Hodgkins lymphoma or Sarcoidosis. I had the biopsy in June, it was Sarcoid. I find it rather strange, I am 56 years old, my girlfriend is a year older and she got it 5 years before me and her husband's friend had it for years, we all come from the same town and went to the same school, a town with a naval shipyard that had a nuclear sub base, less than 10 miles away. I was born and raised in Vallejo, CA and Nevada was not far and the government loved testing the nuclear bomb at that time.

I have heard that Sarcoidosis may also be caused by a chemical environment. I am now living in Massachusetts, the company I worked for closed Friday, December 15, 2006. My employer was unbelievable and worked with me and was supportive, there were times I could not get to work until almost noon. I would be able to work for less than 2 hours and need a nap. I am on unemployment now, but the real world doesn't let you be sick, I have to get another job, but am worried as to whether I will have a problem getting to work on time, etc. I suffer IBS, have for years, it has gotten worse, and the back doctor would not see me because I was late, but, I had IBS just before I left and made me late. Fallon is great coverage if you don't have to use it. Anyway, I have had enough and will not take any more tests, they can do nothing for me.

I have been on organic foods, enzymes, Acidophillus, and Wobezym N, NADH for depression, works really good, and other natural enzymes. I was not aware that I should not take fish oil pills, just started taking fish oil pills with borage. Will stop immediately and take back to Whole Foods. I eat wheat, gluten and dairy free foods, I found a kickin' rice cheese, American and Jalapeno pepper jack tastes just like cheese, I use Rich's non-dairy creamer, it's great, tastes just like milk and use it in my cereal, wheat, gluten free, coffee and tea. I love spinach it's a bummer because it produces vitamin D. That's what's nice about the non-dairy creamer, I called the company to be sure they didn't add it, they don't.

My doctor tried me on predisone for a week, I did not want to take it, but, tried because he wanted to see if it helped. It did not. I refused to take it, the lung specialist said he would not have prescribed it, it would burn itself out. Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have requested to see Dr. Berman in Boston, he studied Sarcoid for over 20 years and is head of the Sarcoid Clinic there, my attending physician thought it was a great idea and recommended it and I already was told Fallon had an agreement with the doctor and the clinic and would probably be allowed a tertiary visit. I got a letter, they declined, my husband wrote a ripping letter telling them they will let me see him, they recommended 2 other lung specialists. What a bunch of morons.

It's not bad enough I have to deal with the symptoms I mentioned, my hair was falling out in bunches, my ankles, feet, toes, hands and fingers were swelling, I ran fevers and night sweats, my hands and the bottom of my feet break out peel, crack, bleed, itch like hell. I have scabs that come and go on my head, body, I've been breaking out in rashes for approximately 5 years. The first time it looked like I was tattooed. It was the strangest rash like chicken pox bottom of feet, up inside of arms, up my back, no one knew what it was the dermatologist asked if I was around a farm he thought I might have anthrax, he didn't want to touch me. I still have the break outs not as bad as that but very uncomfortable. I notice if I watch my diet close, it's not as bad.

I want to find someone who knows what the blue blazes they are doing and not treat me like a claim that's approved or denied. I've come to believe that the doctors take a hipocritic oath as they just give you man made drugs that just make you sicker and it's not all their fault as they are forced to see patients like cattle. The system sucks and I'm done with it. I have decided to move on. I started looking at some of the symptoms and found this got excited and thought maybe there's hope.

I really wonder if Sarcoid isn't infectious, I found out from a girlfriend that her cousin was diagnosed about a week before me, her cousin lives in New York. It was a rare disease at one time, what made it blow up?

Glad I found you.

Sincerely,

Sharon R. Milosh

Sharon R. Milosh

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Lottie (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   03-05-07 06:05

Sharon,

Welcome to SarcInfo.

We now know that Sarcoidosis is caused by Cell Wall Deficient (CWD) bacteria, which have learned not only how to avoid the immune system, but to live within the very cells of the immune system that are supposed to kill them. Sarcoidosis is a chronic infection.

There is information at our new site, www.MarshallProtocol.com, about diagnosis and the standard treatments of SARCOIDOSIS.

You may have many symptoms of Sarcoidosis that you don’t realize are related to your disease. People with a Th1 disease, of which Sarcoidosis is only one, are unable to regulate the production of vitamin D. If you look at the list of HYPERVITAMINOSIS-D SYMPTOMS you may recognize many of the symptoms on the list. (hypervitaminosis D refers to an excess of 1,25D, not the 25D that most doctors test for when they test for “vitamin D”)

The Marshall Protocol (MP) is the only treatment currently in use that can help your immune system to kill the CWD bacteria. The standard treatments such as Prednisone and other immunosuppressants will only allow the bacteria to flourish, and multiply, without anything to kill them.

The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations

You will find that most doctors, especially the specialists are not as open to the Marshall Protocol (MP), as Primary Care Physician seem to be. And, the more you know about the MP, the easier it will be for you to introduce your doctor to it.

SUGGESTIONS TO GET YOUR DOCTOR ON BOARD WITH THE MP

As we have outgrown this site, we hope that you will join us on our new site >> www.Marshall Protocol.com

There is information on how to register there at this link >>

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POST REQUESTS FOR DOCTORS HERE

Please post any questions that you may have in the **General Discussion of the Marshall Protocol** thread.

I will be sending you additional information in an email.

Lottie

*MODERATOR* Dx- Sarcoid 1999 Heart, Neuro, Joints, Myalgia, Skin, SOB, Fatigue (Apr 04-1,25D 48, 25D 17) (May 05-1,25D 35, 25D-below 5) Pred x5yrs- now off! 5/19 Benicar 10/11 Mino, 1/24/05 modified phase 2, 2/2/06 Phase 2 - Worked as RN until back injury

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Sharon R. Milosh (---.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com)
Date:   03-07-07 11:04

March 07, 2007

Hi Lottie,

Thank You so much for your response. I see my doctor March 13th to discuss results of colonoscopy and will show him your recommendations. I read where one person is avoiding wheat, gluten and soy, I have had allergy tests and they said I had intolerances but did not test for the above, however, avoiding the wheat, etc helps but like her, if I don't eat for a long time, no itching, I'm comfortable as soon as I eat, itching. Drives me up a wall, I am now using Gold Bond medicated cream, it burns like crazy better than itching I guess it's a good trade off right now. Only lasts a few hours, I wake up itching too. It's like a yeast infection in my skin. I will research the items you mentioned.

Thank You again.

Sincerely,

Sharon R. Milosh

Sharon R. Milosh

 
 Re: *** Please Ask Your GENERAL QUESTIONS here ***
Author: Vickievelyn (---.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
Date:   03-18-07 08:45

Hi, I just joined this board and I have a lot of mixed feelings going through me right now. Have I finally found help for my medical problems? Reading the threads of others has given me hope I hadlost and thought I would never regain.
A little bit about me. I was diagnosed as having Sarcoidosis in the mid 90's although I feel I had a few symptoms prior to this diagnosis. I woke up one morning gasping for air. The previous weeks I had begun to lose a lot of weight for no reason; no diet or extra exercise.
A lung specialist told me I had Sarcoidosis. I went on Prednisone and got every symptom imaginable. I asked for alternate treatments the doc said there were none. I asked if I could take the Pred differently; higher doses, shorter time. No again. After two years of this I found myself having gained 60 pounds I could not lose along with a myriad of other Predinsone reactions.
My doctor decided to go into research so I had to find another doctor. My new one allowed me to try higher doses of the Pred at a shorted period of time. It worked much better without any new side effects.
This doctor too quit practice to go into research.
Overthe years I have developed many new ailments. Each time I asked a doctor (by this time I had a specialist for just about every part of my body and was refusing the Prednisone altogether) if they could be related to each other and/or Sarcoid they said "No."
Recently at a friend's suggestion, (she found a better Cancer treatment for herself on the Web than the one her doctor had prescribed) I began to search the Web for Sarciod info. I had tried this years ago when I was first diagnosed and there was not much so imagine my happy surprise when I found this and other sites. The symptoms I have been complaining about for years are all here! I won't go into them, this is already long enough but reading about others' conditions has made me realize I am not 1. crazy 2. a hypochondriac or 3. just unable to communicate with my doctors (it's always the patients' fault isn't it?)
I posted on the thread that will list doctors in my area who are sympathetic to the treatments suggested on this site with mixed feelings. I have no use for doctors and their arrogant attitudes but one of them may hold the key to my become a well human being again so I have to try.
Thanks to anyone who was able to sit through my long diatribe. It's been a real catharsis for me.

Vicki

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Historical perspective on Sarcoidosis:


  1. The John's Hopkins Vasculitis Center: Prednisone Side Effects (incl. PHOTOS and PHOTOGRAPHS)
  2. Steroid-Treated patients Have higher risk of Cardiac problems
  3. "Evidence Growing That Inhaled Steroids, Like Steroid Pills, Can Cause Bone Loss"
  4. "Corticosteroids contribute to the prolongation of the disease by delaying resolution"
  5. "No data to suggest that corticosteroid therapy alters long-term disease progression"
  6. Cochrane Review - "Oral and Inhaled Corticosteroids have no discernible effect on lung function"
  7. Prednisone Improves Symptoms but not Lung Function in Sarcodiosis
  8. There is no conclusive evidence that corticosteroids affect the development of irreversible pulmonary damage
  9. Clinical Guideline For Treatment Of Arthritis Pain
  10. Angiotensin II receptor on BALF macrophages from Japanese patients with active sarcoidosis

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